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    HP Omen 17 (ck2000) vs MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX) – Battle Of The RTX 4080s (and 17-inchers)!

    From: Severin Kolakov | 0

    17-inch laptops are big and bulky so committing to one means that it pretty much needs to be desk-bound 24/7. The components inside get quite hot, while the sheer heft heaves your lap a hot and tired mess. However, most of the time these are the most powerful options that you have available.

    Today we’ve got two 17-inch machines, the HP OMEN 17 and the MSI Raider GE78 HX. The OMEN 17 is an overall great laptop for a lot more than gaming, with a sleek exterior and access to really powerful CPUs and GPUs, including 175W RTX 4080s and 4090s.

    On the other hand, the Raider is the second most powerful MSI gaming laptop behind the Titan, with 175W RTX Graphics up to an RTX 4090.

     

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000): Full Specs / In-depth Review

    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX): Full Specs / In-depth Review

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000) configurations:

    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX) configurations:

    Specs table

    SpecificationHP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)
    ProcessorIntel Core i7-13700HX
    Intel Core i7-12800HX
    Intel Core i7-12700H    		Intel Core i9-13980HX
    Intel Core i9-13950HX
    Intel Core i7-13700HX
    GPUNVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (Laptop)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (Laptop)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (Laptop)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (Laptop)    		NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (Laptop, 175W)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (Laptop, 140W)
    Display17.3″, Full HD (1920 x 1080), 144 Hz, IPS
    17.3″, QHD (2560 x 1440), 165 Hz, IPS
    17.3″, QHD (2560 x 1440), 240 Hz, IPS    		17.0″, QHD+ (2560 x 1600), 240 Hz, IPS
    17.0″, FHD+ (1920×1200), 165Hz, IPS
    Memoryup to 64GBup to 96GB
    Battery83Wh99Wh
    Weight6.2 lbs (2.79 kg)6.8 lbs (3.10 kg)
    Dimensions15.64″ x 10.32″ x 1.06″ (397.25 x 262.12 x 27 mm)14.96″ x 11.73″ x 0.91″ (380 x 298 x 23 mm)
    Ports
    • 2x USB Type-A 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Gbps)
    • 1x USB Type-A 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Gbps), Sleep and Charge
    • 1x USB Type-C 4.0, Thunderbolt 4
    • HDMI 2.1
    • Ethernet LAN 10, 100, 1000 Mbit/s
    • Wi-Fi 802.11ax
    • Bluetooth 5.2
    • 3.5mm Combo Jack
    • 1x USB Type-A 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Gbps)
    • 1x USB Type-A 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps)
    • 2x USB Type-C 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps)
    • 1x USB Type-C Thunderbolt 4, DisplayPort
    • HDMI 2.1 (8K@60Hz / 4K@120Hz)
    • SD card reader
    • Ethernet LAN 10, 100, 1000, 2500 Mbit/s
    • Wi-Fi 802.11ax
    • Bluetooth 5.3
    • 3.5mm Combo Jack

    Unboxing

    There isn’t anything out of the ordinary inside the two laptops’ boxes, just paperwork and the chargers. Both laptops come with 330W adapters, which are bulky and heavy.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)
    Charger power330W330W

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Design and construction

    The Raider is the heavier of the two devices, weighing 300 extra grams. On the other hand, it’s slightly thinner, with a profile of 23 mm. Design-wise, the OMEN has a matte black finish with a Gradient OMEN logo on the lid. The Raider has a classic MSI Dragon logo on the lid, along with gold and red accents on the back, where most of the cooling vents are located.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)
    Weight6.2 lbs (2.79 kg)6.8 lbs (3.10 kg)
    Dimensions15.64″ x 10.32″ x 1.06″ (397.25 x 262.12 x 27 mm)14.96″ x 11.73″ x 0.91″ (380 x 298 x 23 mm)

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Keyboard and touchpad

    Right from the start, the OMEN lacks a NumPad, while the Raider manages to squeeze one, at the cost of less space between individual keys. Still, the Arrow keys are big and semi-translucent. The same could be said about the WASD keys and the power button. Both keyboards have long key travel and clicky feedback. The touchpads are rather large, smooth, and responsive.

    In terms of backlights, the OMEN has either a 4-zone or a Per-key RGB backlight. The MSI Raider only has a Per-key option, which can be synced with the rest of the RGB using the SteelSeries app.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Ports

    The Raider has two more USB Type-C ports as well as an SD card reader, while the Omen has an extra Type-A port. The Omen also features a Mini DisplayPort.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)
    Ports
    • 2x USB Type-A 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Gbps)
    • 1x USB Type-A 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Gbps), Sleep and Charge
    • 1x USB Type-C 4.0, Thunderbolt 4
    • Mini DisplayPort
    • HDMI 2.1
    • Ethernet LAN 10, 100, 1000 Mbit/s
    • Wi-Fi 802.11ax
    • Bluetooth 5.2
    • 3.5mm Combo Jack
    • 1x USB Type-A 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Gbps)
    • 1x USB Type-A 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps)
    • 2x USB Type-C 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps)
    • 1x USB Type-C Thunderbolt 4, DisplayPort
    • HDMI 2.1 (8K@60Hz / 4K@120Hz)
    • SD Card reader
    • Ethernet LAN 10, 100, 2500 Mbit/s
    • Wi-Fi 802.11ax
    • Bluetooth 5.3
    • 3.5mm Combo Jack

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Display and Sound Quality

    The HP OMEN offers three display options, a Full HD 144Hz panel, and two QHD panels with either 165Hz or 240Hz refresh rate. On the Raider, you get taller 16:10 displays. You can choose between a FHD+ 165Hz display and a QHD+ 240Hz display, both with IPS panels. Since the Raider has a slightly smaller panel with more pixels, its got a higher density and a slightly lower Retina distance (the distance from which you can’t distinguish individual pixels).

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)
    Resolution2560 x 14402560 x 1600
    Aspect ratio16:916:10
    Panel technologyIPSIPS
    Pixel density170 PPI178 PPI
    Dot pitch0.15 x 0.15 mm0.14 x 0.14 mm
    Retina distance20″ (51 cm)19″ (49 cm)

    Here you can compare the viewing angles of the two displays.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    The panel of the MSI Raider is quite brighter and has better uniformity (the brightness of the panel is even across the entire surface, with a deviation of only 4%).

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)
    Peak brightness (middle of the screen/average for the entire display area)341/317 nits507/495 nits
    Max deviation16%4%
    Color temperature (on white screen)6530K6350K
    Contrast ratio1140:11240:1

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Color coverage

    Here are some illustrations (Fig. 1) & (Fig. 2). The whole “sail-shaped” map below consists of all the colors we can see, while the black crooked line shows all the colors from real-world scenes and nature around us.

    Then, we’ve drawn some of the most important and interesting color spaces, compared to the colors that the panels of the laptops can display:

    Standard/For Web: sRGB – widely used color space for most consumer devices, ideal for Web design and development
    For Print: AdobeRGB – used in professional photo editing, graphic design, and print
    For Photographers/Video Editors: DCI-P3 – used in high-end film production, post-production, and digital cinema
    Premium HDR: Rec.2020 – the widest consumer ITU color standard, covering a massive 75.8% of the visible spectrum, a benchmark for premium HDR content

    The yellow dotted line shows the color coverage of the HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000) and the MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX).

    The MSI Raider GE78 HX can display many more colors than its competitor, offering a much more vivid picture.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)
    sRGB91%100%
    DCI-P374%99.4%

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Color accuracy

    Now let’s see how big is the difference between the real colors and the ones you’ll see on the three laptops. We measure that distance in DeltaE – the bigger the number, the more different they look.

    For the next illustration, we’ve chosen 24 common colors like dark and light skin, blue sky, green grass, etc.

    Below you can see the results of the two laptops with our Web Design and Office Work profile applied. The MSI Raider GE78 HX is the more accurate of the two, with a dE value of 0.8.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

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    Response time (Gaming capabilities)

    We test the reaction time of the pixels with the usual “black-to-white” and “white-to-black” method from 10% to 90% and vice versa.

    The MSI Raider GE78 HX has a lower Fall Time + Rise Time = 7.6 ms. Short pixel response time is a prerequisite for a smooth picture in dynamic scenes.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    PWM

    PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) is a way for displays to adjust brightness. When used at lower frequencies it can seriously tire out our eyes. OLED and MiniLED panels are notorious abusers of PWM. Thankfully, both IPS displays show no PWM usage across all brightness levels.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Sound

    The OMEN 17 has Bang & Olufsen-branded speakers, while the Raider has a set of 6 speakers from Dynaudio, placed all around the laptop. Both provide quality sound with no frequency deviations.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Performance – CPU, GPU, Gaming, Storage

    Below we’ve highlighted the configurations that we’ve tested.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)
    ProcessorIntel Core i7-13700HX
    Intel Core i7-12800HX
    Intel Core i7-12700H    		Intel Core i9-13980HX
    Intel Core i9-13950HX
    Intel Core i7-13700HX
    GPUNVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (Laptop, 175W)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (Laptop)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (Laptop)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (Laptop)    		NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (Laptop, 175W)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (Laptop, 140W)

    CPU benchmarks

    It’s clear enough that the Core i9 is more powerful than the Core i7 in Cinebench R23, however, the scores in Photoshop are decently closer, with just a 0.4-second difference in favor of the Core i9. With that in mind, though, Raider with a Core i9 will be more expensive. Still, we appreciate the availability of more powerful processors.

    Here, we evaluate the CPU's performance using a real-world 3D rendering task, assessing its ability to handle complex computations and rendering workloads efficiently.

    Results are from the Cinebench 2024 Multi-Core test (higher is better)

    Intel Core i7-13700HX HP Omen 17-ck2000
    1146

    GPU benchmarks

    In synthetic benchmarks, the two RTX 4080s trade victories in the different tests. Overall, the MSI Raider GE78 HX came first in three out of the four benchmarks that we use.

    The results are from 3DMark Time Spy (Graphics). Higher is better.

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W) HP Omen 17-ck2000
    18514
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W) MSI Raider GE78
    19439

    Results are from 3DMark Fire Strike (Graphics) benchmark (higher the score, the better)

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W) HP Omen 17-ck2000
    44458
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W) MSI Raider GE78
    44101

    The results are from 3DMark Wild Life Extreme Unlimited. Higher is better.

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W) HP Omen 17-ck2000
    37066
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W) MSI Raider GE78
    37696

    Results are from the Unigine Superposition benchmark (higher the score, the better)

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W) HP Omen 17-ck2000
    11003
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W) MSI Raider GE78
    11299

    Gaming tests

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Metro ExodusFull HD, Low (Check settings)Full HD, High (Check settings)Full HD, Extreme (Check settings)
    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000) – RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W)154 fps125 fps76 fps
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX) – RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W)170 fps (+10%)136 fps (+9%)80 fps (+5%)

    Borderlands 3Full HD, Medium (Check settings)Full HD, High (Check settings)Full HD, Badass (Check settings)
    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000) – RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W)148 fps135 fps127 fps
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX) – RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W)194 fps (+31%)171 fps (+27%)150 fps (+18%)

    Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon WildlandsFull HD, High (Check settings)Full HD, Very High (Check settings)Full HD, Ultra (Check settings)
    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000) – RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W)187 fps166 fps112 fps
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX) – RTX 4080 (Laptop, 175W)198 fps (+6%)177 fps (+7%)117 fps (+4%)

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    Battery

    With a 19% bigger battery, the Raider delivers 12 minutes more video playback and 3 hours and 10 minutes more web browsing.

    Brightness: 180 nits; Display Mode: SDR
    Time to Full Discharge: Higher is Better

    HP Omen 17-ck2000 83Wh
    4h 59m
    MSI Raider GE78 99Wh, 4-cell
    5h 11m+4%

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    HP Omen 17-ck2000 83Wh
    4h 45m
    MSI Raider GE78 99Wh, 4-cell
    7h 55m+66.7%

    Cooling and temperatures, Gaming comfort

    The MSI Raider brings more heat pipes, so let’s see if all the extra copper will result in better handling of the RTX 4080.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    We see higher clock speeds and lower temperatures on the RTX 4080 inside the MSI Raider. To be specific, its 6°C cooler after 2 minutes of stress testing, and 9°C cooler after 30 minutes of testing.

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080GPU frequency/ Core temp (after 2 min)GPU frequency/ Core temp (after 30 min)
    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)2340 MHz @ 80°C @ 174W2304 MHz @ 85°C @ 174W
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)2418 MHz @ 74°C @ 173W2415 MHz @ 76°C @ 173W

    Gaming comfort

    On the outside, the MSI Raider is around 2°C cooler.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Upgradeability

    Both laptops have two SODIMM slots for memory expansion, as well as two M.2 slots for more storage down the line. You can see how to upgrade the laptops in the videos below.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000)
    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX)

    Verdict

    Both the HP OMEN 17 and the MSI Raider GE78 HX are fine gaming machines, however, one of them is the clear winner when it comes to both gaming and overall functionality. Spoiler alert, it’s the MSI Raider. First of all, its got all the RGB you’ll ever need, which we’ve warmed up to in recent times. After all, if you buy a gaming machine, you might as well have all the bells and whistles that come with it.

    The Raider has a better cooling setup, which contributes to a cooler GPU and an overall cooler laptop, both in terms of inside and outside temperatures. Not only is the GPU running a lot better, but it also maintains higher clock speeds, so you get more performance (just check out the gaming tests that we ran).

    Second of all, you get a brighter display. With that said, the display on the HP OMEN 17 is quite crisp in its own right, and both laptops can be used for Content creation without a doubt.

    In the end, it all comes down to pricing, as both laptops have shown to be capable of high-end gaming and content creation, with a slight to moderate edge to the MSI Raider.

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000): Full Specs / In-depth Review

    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX): Full Specs / In-depth Review

    HP Omen 17 (2023, 17-ck2000) configurations:

    MSI Raider GE78 HX (13VX) configurations:

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