ASUS ROG Strix GL702VS review – not a worthy replacement of the ASUS ROG G752VS

How is the ASUS ROG Strix GL702VS any different than the ASUS ROG G752VS? That’s the first question we asked ourselves when looking at the specs sheet. And in which cases the GL702VS is a more smart investment than the G752VS since both are pretty close to each other price-wise. The same is valid when talking about performance as well. However, the GL702VS is considerably more portable, which in turn results in lowered cooling performance and also skips on some of the features that the G752VS offers.

In any case, expect the ASUS ROG Strix GL702VS to deliver premium user experience, top-notch performance and excellent screen suitable for gaming. The latter is usually inherent to all ASUS gaming laptops even coming from the low-end spectrum. Aside from the usual Core i7-7700HQ CPU, NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 1070 GPU, 1TB of HDD storage paired with an M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD on board, the GL702VS offers various screen options to choose from. The unit we are reviewing has a Full HD IPS panel with 75Hz refresh rate and G-Sync but you can opt for a 120Hz variant (also with G-Sync) but ready yourself for a considerable price jump. We do have to note, though, that the 120Hz version doesn’t compromise on screen quality because it’s still IPS rather than TN, which is commonly found in today’s gaming laptops with fast displays, and if you need more detail, then the UHD configuration will probably suit you better. So where’s the catch in all of this? Continue reading to find out more.

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Contents


In 2 minutes…

We know that many of you don’t have enough time to read our in-depth tests so we made a 2-minute recap of the most important things. Enjoy!


Retail package

The laptop comes in a standard ASUS ROG Strix box with the usual user manuals, AC adapter and power cord.


Design and construction

Since the ASUS ROG Strix GL702VS shares the same design as the smaller GL502VS notebook that we reviewed a few months back. However, since we have the silver-colored version, it does resemble the G752VS as well. Our opinion about the use of suboptimal materials remains because 90% of the notebook is made of plastic (only the lid is aluminum), which is rather disappointing considering the price tag. In any case, we were impressed by the overall sturdiness of the chassis with a few notable exceptions.

The lid, as before, is made of brushed aluminum with the ROG logo in the middle and two stripes next to it, all of which are illuminated with orange LEDs. On the contrary to the black version, the gray one that we have doesn’t attract fingerprints so much or at least they aren’t as visible. Bending the middle of the lid is fairly easy, especially when you try to push the bottom bezel between the hinges. However, even if strong pressure is applied, ripples don’t appear on the LCD panel. Also, the screen is fairly resistant to twisting due to the spaced-out hinges, which in turn has resulted into the flexible middle area. Speaking of which, they are made of plastic but provide good stability on uneven surface and allow opening the notebook with just one hand. The bottom piece is also identical to the 15-inch variant with lots of grills for dispersing the heat and no dedicated service hatch.

You might think that the sides are pretty thick but compared to other 17-inchers with the GTX 1070 on board, 30 mm don’t seem all that alarming. The ASUS ROG G752VS, for example, is 51 mm thick while the Acer Predator 17 is 40 mm. What’s more, the GL702VS surprises with healthy port distribution as most of the I/Os are on the left – RJ-45, mini DisplayPort, HDMI, USB-C 3.1 (Gen 2 with Thunderbolt 3 support), 3.5 mm audio jack and USB 3.0 connector. The right side accommodates only the USB 3.0 connectors and the SD card reader.

As before, the interior is a mixed bag. It appears to be sturdy for the most part, although there’s a visible flex in the middle of the keyboard when pressed lightly but this doesn’t affect the typing experience in any way. Still, we would have liked a matte finish or something more sophisticated, again considering the price point. The plastic material that imitates brushed aluminum can be seen all across the ASUS ROG lineup including the low-end GL553. This can be considered as a personal opinion but what isn’t is the keyboard. It’s generally good for typing with clicky feedback and red LED illumination. Unfortunately, though, this isn’t a laptop for typing but for gaming instead. We were really surprised by the fact that the GL553 and GL753 use a keyboard with longer travel that feels way nicer for gaming. Moreover, media control buttons are still out of the question. The touchpad, on the other hand, is almost perfect. We really would have preferred a slightly bigger trackpad area considering the form factor but it’s still super comfortable to use. The gliding surface is buttery-smooth, it registers all gestures, swipes, and clicks accurately while mouse clicks are clicky and light.

Weighing at just below 3 kg (2.9 kg to be exact), the ASUS ROG GL702VS delivers robust design overall and refreshing appearance. That’s the silver-colored variant, of course. In addition, the port distribution is good and allows for convenient stationary setup without all the cables sticking out from the right side. And you can plug quite a lot of them – USB-C Thunderbolt 3, HDMI, mini DisplayPort, etc. The only thing that doesn’t fit into the premium profile is that “plasticky feel” – we would really like to see aluminum or at least soft-touch matte finish in the future models. It gives the notebook a more sophisticated look and prime feel. Also, a keyboard with longer travel would be greatly appreciated – like the ones used in the ASUS ROG Strix GL553 and GL753 laptops.

Disassembly, maintenance and upgrade options

Despite the absence of dedicated service hatch, the GL702VS offers fairly easy access to the hardware inside. You just have to pop open the bottom piece by removing all the screws.

Storage upgrade options – M.2 SSD, 2.5-inch HDD/SSD

As expected, the unit offers a standard 2.5-inch HDD and an M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe SSD. The HDD is Toshiba 1TB while the SSD is Samsung PM961 with 256GB capacity.

SlotUnitUpgrade price
2.5-inch HDD/SSDToshiba 1TB HDD Buy from Amazon.com (#CommissionsEarned)
M.2 slotsSamsung 961 M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (2280) Buy from Amazon.com (#CommissionsEarned)

RAM

The laptop carries two RAM slots instead of four so you can upgrade up to 32GB of DDR4-2400 which is definitely an overkill for gaming and general use. Our unit came with one 16GB DDR4-2400 chip from Samsung.

SlotUnitUpgrade price
Slot 1Samsung 16GB DDR4-2400 Buy from Amazon.com (#CommissionsEarned)
Slot 2Free Buy from Amazon.com (#CommissionsEarned)

Other components

The Wi-Fi module is Intel 8260NGW.

The huge battery is located under the wrist rest area and it’s rated at 76Wh.

Cooling system

The notebook seems to incorporate a standard cooling solution with two big heat pipes connecting the CPU and GPU heat sinks and the two fans placed on the sides. But is it enough to keep the internals cool? According to our temperature test, not quite. Continue reading to find out more.


Display quality

Since we are reviewing the 75Hz version, the laptop offers the same panel as the ASUS ROG G752VS – LG LP156WF4-SPF3 – a 17.3-inch IPS panel with Full HD (1920×1080) resolution, 127 ppi and 0.1995 x 0.1995 mm pixel pitch. The screen can be considered as “Retina” when viewed from a distance equal or greater than 69 cm.

Viewing angles are excellent since the screen uses an IPS panel.

The maximum brightness we were able to detect is 370 cd/m2 in the center of the screen and 356 cd/m2 as average across the surface with just 7% deviation. The color temperature is a bit colder than the standard one – 7140K, so colors will appear a bit blue-ish. The contrast ratio is excellent – 1050:1.

The maximum color deviation dE2000 compared to the center of the screen is 1.7. That’s a good result since values above 4.0 are unwanted and it’s essential for color-sensitive work.

Color reproduction

To make sure we are on the same page, we would like to give you a little introduction of the sRGB color gamut and the Adobe RGB. To start, there’s the CIE 1976 Uniform Chromaticity Diagram that represents the visible specter of colors by the human eye, giving you a better perception of the color gamut coverage and the color accuracy.

Inside the black triangle, you will see the standard color gamut (sRGB) that is being used by millions of people in HDTV and on the web. As for the Adobe RGB, this is used in professional cameras, monitors etc for printing. Basically, colors inside the black triangle are used by everyone and this is the essential part of the color quality and color accuracy of a mainstream notebook.

Still, we’ve included other color spaces like the famous DCI-P3 standard used by movie studios, as well as the digital UHD Rec.2020 standard. Rec.2020, however, is still a thing of the future and it’s difficult for today’s displays to cover that well. We’ve also included the so-called Michael Pointer gamut, or Pointer’s gamut, which represents the colors that naturally occur around us every day.

The display is able to reproduce 90% of the sRGB color gamut so it’s ideal for multimedia and gaming.

Below you will see practically the same image but with the color circles representing the reference colors and the white circles being the result. You can see main and additional colors with 25%, 50%, 75% and 100% saturation inside the sRGB gamut pre and post calibration.

The “Gaming and Web Design” profile is created at 140 cd/m2 brightness, D65 (6500K) white point and optimal gamma in sRGB mode.

We tested the accuracy of the display with 24 commonly used colors like light and dark human skin, blue sky, green grass, orange etc. You can check out the results at factory condition and also, with the “Gaming and Web Design” profile.

The next figure shows how well the display is able to reproduce really dark parts of an image, which is essential when watching movies or playing games in low ambient light.

The left side of the image represents the display with stock settings, while the right one is with the “Gaming and Web Design” profile activated. On the horizontal axis, you will find the grayscale and on the vertical axis – the luminance of the display. On the two graphs below you can easily check for yourself how your display handles the darkest nuances but keep in mind that this also depends on the settings of your current display, the calibration, the viewing angle and the surrounding light conditions.

Gaming capabilities (Response time)

We test the reaction time of the pixels with the usual “black-to-white” and “white-to-black” method from 10% to 90% and reverse.

We recorded Fall Time + Rise Time = 22ms.


PWM (Screen flickering)

Pulse Width modulation (PWM) is an easy way to control monitor brightness. When you lower the brightness, the light intensity of the backlight is not lowered, but instead turned off and on by the electronics with a frequency indistinguishable to the human eye. In these light impulses the light/no-light time ratio varies, while brightness remains unchanged, which is harmful to your eyes. You can read more about that in our dedicated article on PWM.

The display doesn’t use PWM for regulating screen brightness so it’s safe to use for long periods of time in this regard. We did notice, however, some slight pulsations with extremely high frequency (120 kHz) at times but nothing to worry about, really.

Blue light emissions

Installing of our Health-Guard profile not only eliminates PWM but also reduces the harmful Blue Light emissions while keeping the colors of the screen perceptually accurate. If you’re not familiar with the Blue light, the TL;DR version is – emissions that negatively affect your eyes, skin, and your whole body. You can find more information about that in our dedicated article on Blue Light.

You can see the levels of emitted blue light on the spectral power distribution (SDP) graph.

Conclusion

Our opinion of this panel remains the same – it’s excellent for multimedia purposes and especially gaming due to the presence of G-Sync and 75Hz refresh rate. It should deliver butter-smooth frame rates with vivid colors, high contrast and will do just fine even in extremely bright environments. It’s also PWM-free making it safe to use for long periods of time.

However, our profiles will provide better visibility in low-light scenes and also better color reproduction if needed.

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Office Work

Office Work should be used mostly by users who spend most of the time looking at pieces of text, tables or just surfing. This profile aims to deliver better distinctness and clarity by keeping a flat gamma curve (2.20), native color temperature and perceptually accurate colors.

Design and Gaming

This profile is aimed at designers who work with colors professionally, and for games and movies as well. Design and Gaming takes display panels to their limits, making them as accurate as possible in the sRGB IEC61966-2-1 standard for Web and HDTV, at white point D65.

Health-Guard

Health-Guard eliminates the harmful Pulse-Width Modulation (PWM) and reduces the negative Blue Light which affects our eyes and body. Since it’s custom tailored for every panel, it manages to keep the colors perceptually accurate. Health-Guard simulates paper so the pressure on the eyes is greatly reduced.

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Specs sheet

The specs sheet provided below is for the model used in this review. Hardware specification may vary depending on your region.

CPUIntel Core i7-7700HQ (4-core, 2.80 -3.80 GHz, 6MB cache)
RAM16GB (1x 16384MB) – DDR4, 2400MHz
GPUNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8GB GDDR5)
HDD/SSD1TB HDD + 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
Display17.3-inch – 1920×1080 (Full HD) IPS, matte
Optical drive
ConnectivityLAN 10/100/1000 Mbps, Wi-Fi 802.11ac, Bluetooth 4.1
Other features
  • 3x USB 3.0
  • 1x USB-C 3.1 (Gen 2 with Thunderbolt support)
  • 3.5 mm audio jack
  • LAN
  • mini DisplaPort
  • HDMI
  • card reader (SD, MMC, MS)
  • red keyboard LED backlight
Battery76Wh
Thickness30 mm (1.18″)
Weight2.9 kg (6.39 lbs)


Software

We used the pre-installed Windows 10 (64-bit) for the writing of this review but if you wish to perform a clean install of the OS without the bloatware, we suggest downloading all of the latest drivers from ASUS’ official support page.

Battery

Despite the fact that the laptop houses a huge 76Wh battery, our endurance tests show nothing more than average runtimes. However, this is expected since all gaming laptops suffer from poor battery life due to the lack of NVIDIA Optimus supprt (switchable graphics feature). This is because the G-Sync technology isn’t compatible with the much-needed for battery saving switchable graphics feature so the integrated GPU isn’t used for the undemanding tasks like browsing and video playback. The discrete GPU is always on.

Anyway, we’ve tested the laptop with the usual settings – Wi-Fi turned on, Windows battery saving feature turned on and screen brightness set to 120 cd/m2.

Web browsing

In order to simulate real-life conditions, we used our own script for automatic web browsing through over 70 websites.

As expected, short battery runtime on the web browsing test – 304 minutes (5 hours and 4 minutes).

Video playback

For every test like this, we use the same video in HD.

Video playback test turned out to be even lower – 265 minutes (4 hours and 25 minutes).

Gaming

We recently started using F1 2015’s built-in benchmark on loop in order to simulate real-life gaming.

It’s quite unlikely that you will start a gaming session without being close to a power source, but it’s good to know that you can play for more than an hour – 72 minutes (1 hour and 12 minutes).

CPU – Intel Core i7-7700HQ

The Core i7-7700HQ is Kaby Lake’s top-shelf direct successor of the Skylake Core i7-6700HQ offering slightly higher clock speeds on the almost identical architecture and TDP. While Intel markets Kaby Lake’s architecture as “14nm+”, the Core i7-7700HQ is still on the same 14nm node with the only significant update being in the iGPU department. That’s why the slightly altered clock speeds (2.8 – 3.8 GHz vs 2.6 – 3.5 GHz) bring not more than 10% increase in performance compared to the Core i7-6700HQ. We still have the supported Hyper-Threading technology with 4/8 – core/thread design, the same 45W TDP and 6MB cache.

However, the Kaby Lake generation boasts an updated video engine for the iGPU, although, its performance is just about the same. Branded as Intel HD Graphics 630, the GPU offers slightly higher clock speeds (350 – 1100 MHz vs 350 – 1050 MHz) compared to the Intel HD Graphics 530 and support for H265/HEVC Main10 profile at 10-bit color depth and the VP9 codec for full hardware acceleration. In addition, the HDCP 2.2 is also supported allowing Netflix’s 4K video streaming.

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Fritz

Fritz is a chess benchmark that tests the computing capabilities of the CPU with various chess moves. The Intel Core i7-6700HQ managed to get 13.445 million moves per second. For comparison, one of the most powerful computers, Deep(er) Blue, was able to squeeze out 200 million moves per second. In 1997 Deep(er) Blue even beat the famous Garry Kasparov with 3.5 to 2.5.

GPU – NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 (8GB GDDR5)

2016-06-02-image-33The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 is the second fastest mobile GPU after the GTX 1080. It’s part of NVIDIA’s Pascal generation of GPUs and unlike previous releases, the company finally closes the gap between mobile and desktop graphics processors and that’s why there’s no “M” in the branding of Pascal GPUs. All thanks to the 16nm TSMC manufacturing process of the GPU, which allows better thermals and overall performance in a smaller form factor. That’s a big technology jump compared to the 28nm Maxwell generation.

Compared to its desktop counterpart, the GTX 1070 doesn’t differ too much. They share an identical number of ROPs (64) and identical memory – 8GB GDDR5 with 256-bit bus clocked at 8000 MHz. However, there’s a minor difference in clock speeds – the laptop GPU ticks at 1443 MHz and can go up to 1645 MHz while the desktop variant is running at 1506 MHz – 1683 MHz. To compensate to some extent, the laptop 1070 carries more CUDA cores (2048 vs 1920) and slightly more TMUs (170 vs 120).

Due to its performance, thermals and power consumption, which is believed to be 10W more than the GTX 980M, the GPU is suitable for large 17-inch laptops with the appropriate cooling solution.

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Gaming tests

GTA-V-benchmarks

Grand Theft Auto V (GTA 5)Full HD, Medium (Check settings)Full HD, Very High (Check settings)Full HD, MAX (Check settings)
Average FPS114 fps70 fps54 fps

Far Cry PrimalFull HD, High (Check settings)Full HD, Very High (Check settings)Full HD, MAX (Check settings)
Average FPS83 fps78 fps75 fps

rise-of-the-tomb-raider

Rise of the Tomb Raider (2016)Full HD, Medium (Check settings)Full HD, Very High (Check settings)Full HD, MAX (Check settings)
Average FPS121 fps68 fps48 fps

Tom Clancy’s The DivisionFull HD, Medium (Check settings)Full HD, Ultra (Check settings)Full HD, MAX (Check settings)
Average FPS119 fps69 fps27 fps

Temperatures

The stress tests that we perform aren’t a good representation of real-life use but it’s still the best way to assess the cooling capabilities and effectiveness of the system in the long run, especially when we are talking about a gaming laptop.

We start with one hour of CPU torture test at 100%. The Core i7-7700HQ ran at its maximum frequency of 3.4 GHz with four active cores while keeping the temperatures at a relatively safe zone.

But turning on the GPU stress test revealed something worrying. The CPU ran at 3.0 GHz, which is just fine and it’s still in the normal range of frequencies but the GPU didn’t perform well from the beginning. Temperatures were high – 81 degrees and the chip didn’t reach its maximum frequency of 1645 MHz. In fact, it didn’t reach its base frequency of 1443 MHz but instead ran at around 1189 MHz. This can be easily considered as thermal throttling. Of course, the notebook will perform just fine during a normal gaming session but this is definitely something you need to consider in the long run.

Temperatures on the surface were relatively low with the center and the top area of the keyboard being a little bit too warm as you can see from the heat map below.


Verdict

This verdict will be more about the differences between the GL702VS and the G752VS since both are very close considering the hardware and are also in the same ballpark price-wise.

For starters, the build of the G752VS appears to be a tad more convincing, although both use plastic as the main material. We really expected a better choice of materials considering the price range of both machines. In any case, the G752VS offers better keyboard experience and considerably better touchpad – bigger with comfortable mouse buttons. Also, the matte surface for the interior on the G752VS definitely suits it better. However, the GL702VS excels in one way we really didn’t expect – portability. Compared to other 17-inch options on the market, including the beefy G752VS, the GL702VS is considerably thinner and lighter tipping the scale just under 3.0 kg.

Performance is on par, for the most part. Since both laptops use the same GPU, but not the same CPU (the G752VS is still sold with the Core i7-6700HQ, which would actually affect performance during gaming at all), frame rates on modern games are almost identical. However, during heavy workload, the GL702VS fails to impress and the GPU thermal throttles. That’s something that needs to be considered in the long run for sure. Also, if for some reason you need all four RAM slots, the G752VS is the way to go since the GL702VS lacks two of them. In addition, the G752VS offers two M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD slots instead of just one.

And finally, the screen. There isn’t much to say here besides the fact that both use the same display (if you are going for the 75Hz configuration of the GL702VS) and it’s just excellent. You get bright IPS panel with wide sRGB coverage, high contrast, G-Sync and 75Hz refresh rate. Spend a little more and you will get the 120Hz model for an even better gaming experience. Don’t forget to buy our custom profiles for improved color accuracy and more visibility during gaming and watching movies.

To sum things up, if you are aiming for portability, want the latest Kaby Lake Core i7-7700HQ on board and probably a better 120Hz screen, the GL702VS is the way to go but if for some reason the four RAM slots are essential to you along with the two M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD slots, a better cooling system is a must and the input devices are also of great importance, you’d better go for the G752VS.

You can find all of the available configurations and their prices here:  Buy from Amazon.com (#CommissionsEarned)

Pros

  • Generally sturdy build
  • Fairly portable for a 17-inch gaming laptop
  • The touchpad is nice despite being too small
  • A wide range of I/O
  • An excellent IPS panel with 75Hz and G-Sync (120Hz version is optional)
  • The panel doesn’t use PWM for regulating brightness


Cons

  • Suboptimal choice of materials
  • Keyboard could be better (longer key travel)
  • Poor battery life due to the absence of NVIDIA Optimus support
  • GPU throttles under heavy workload (unconvincing cooling system)

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DonGod
DonGod
7 years ago

Did you try to undervolt the CPU to overcome the thermal throttling ? In most cases this is already enough. The high voltage of Kaby Lake seems to hamper many slim laptop builds or results in high noise. I understand the laptop should work well out of the box, but for experienced users info on undervolting would be interesting.

charles
charles
6 years ago

using the ROG centre app you can turn the fans on max before you run tests/game sessions. This helps keep both cpu and gpu from overheating. Did you use this feature before running your tests?

Aviral Agarwal
Aviral Agarwal
6 years ago
Reply to  charles

Do you own this laptop ? I am confused between this and predator 17 ? Can you help ?

Gibbon
Gibbon
6 years ago

I am pretty sure that this laptop was never meant to be or designed to replace, the GL752VS — the two models are meant to exist side-by-side in ASUS’s product lineup. They are different products for different markets. Neither is meant to be a replacement for the other. Why you would even claim that it’s meant as a replacement and that it’s not “worthy” is just a bit misleading.

Gibbon
Gibbon
6 years ago
Reply to  Rossen Pandev

Sorry yes, I meant the G752VS and no, you’re wrong. The G752VS is a completely different laptop — it’s much bigger at 4.5Kg and it is not meant to be portable as you yourself have stated. The GL702VS is meant to be a light and thin gaming laptop. Once again, they are meant for different markets. The G752VS was updated quite a few months ago https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-G752VS-7700HQ-GTX-1070-FHD-Laptop-Review.225084.0.html

Aviral Agarwal
Aviral Agarwal
6 years ago
Reply to  Rossen Pandev

Can you please tell which is better ? This or predator 17 ? Gtx1070 version ?

leron
leron
6 years ago

man, the gtx 1070 should preform much better than theses fps result !!

alitavanaieali tavanaie

Please Help me
I must buy one of these for vray rendering (hybrid cpu_gpu)
asus rog 702vs
Acer Predator 15 (G9-593
msi gt62vr

I have heared that MSI laptops has lower qualities
Also you have said that rog has problem in cooling , so graphic will not work properly
and acer has lower CPU-Boss speed.
which one must i buy?
please help me

ali tavanaie
5 years ago

Also please tell me that is it possible to add additional cooler to this laptop to negate this bad cooling effects?

Brian Hunter
5 years ago

I have the updated GL502VMK model and every review has stated this overheats like mad which is completely untrue OK its only got the 1060 version but with so much graphic hp on tap there has to be some thermal fightback, I replaced my ASUS G750JS as its to heavy and to be fair the 752 is also to heavy and should not have been used as an comparison here.